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Ludovic Launer[_2_]
July 18th 08, 05:59 PM
Could any owner of a german registered glider shed a light on this subject:
As a private owner, and sole operator of a self launcher (DG-808), I'm a bit
confused as to what should be done concerning the:

Application, Declaration and Approval of a Standardized Maintenance
Programme (SIHP) in accordance with Regulation (EC) 2042/2003, Part M,
M.A.302

The document can be found on the LBA website :
http://www.lba.de/cln_010/nn_308444/SharedDocs/download/Formulare/T5/T52__Formulare/AMP_20PG_2BAS__en,templateId=raw,property=publicat ionFile.doc/AMP%20PG+AS_en.doc

Or somewhere here in German:
http://www.lba.de/cln_010/nn_67048/DE/Formulare/T5/T52/Formulare__GenTab.html

I'd just like to make sure I'll still be allowed to carry out the annual
inspections, and then have them checked / certified by our local LBA
inspector. In other words, make sure things will stay as they are, and I
won't have to have the inspections carried out at a certified LBA workshop.

I phoned my local "prufer" who said I shouldn't be doing anything at all,
things haven't changed....yet.
I got in touch with other German registered glider owners who said they
filled out the form and sent it back to the LBA

If there's such a form, why shouldn't it be used ? Should I, or should I not
fill it out and post it ?
It's very confusing having two different answers

Does anyone have more information on that ?
Have you sent the form ?
What have your LBA inspectors told you ?

Thanks for your help,
Ludovic

Markus Graeber
July 18th 08, 06:21 PM
Here some more info from DG (in German): http://www.dg-flugzeugbau.de/camo-d.html

Markus

On Jul 18, 10:59 am, "Ludovic Launer" <ludovic.launer(at) free.fr>
wrote:
> Could any owner of a german registered glider shed a light on this subject:
> As a private owner, and sole operator of a self launcher (DG-808), I'm a bit
> confused as to what should be done concerning the:
>
> Application, Declaration and Approval of a Standardized Maintenance
> Programme (SIHP) in accordance with Regulation (EC) 2042/2003, Part M,
> M.A.302
>
> The document can be found on the LBA website :http://www.lba.de/cln_010/nn_308444/SharedDocs/download/Formulare/T5/...
>
> Or somewhere here in German:http://www.lba.de/cln_010/nn_67048/DE/Formulare/T5/T52/Formulare__Gen...
>
> I'd just like to make sure I'll still be allowed to carry out the annual
> inspections, and then have them checked / certified by our local LBA
> inspector. In other words, make sure things will stay as they are, and I
> won't have to have the inspections carried out at a certified LBA workshop.
>
> I phoned my local "prufer" who said I shouldn't be doing anything at all,
> things haven't changed....yet.
> I got in touch with other German registered glider owners who said they
> filled out the form and sent it back to the LBA
>
> If there's such a form, why shouldn't it be used ? Should I, or should I not
> fill it out and post it ?
> It's very confusing having two different answers
>
> Does anyone have more information on that ?
> Have you sent the form ?
> What have your LBA inspectors told you ?
>
> Thanks for your help,
> Ludovic

Ludovic Launer[_2_]
July 18th 08, 09:22 PM
> Here some more info from DG (in German):
> http://www.dg-flugzeugbau.de/camo-d.html

I'm sure that would answer a lot of my questions....if I could understand
it...
Any source for the same article in English ?

Regards,
Ludovic

John Smith
July 19th 08, 11:43 AM
The problem is, EASA introduced this in a very tight schedule, and the
proposed requirements have been changed several times in the process.
Litaraly nobody knows at this point exactly how it will work and how to
really deal with it in real life.

Basically, you will need an approved "mainenance programme". With this,
you can as a private owner still do all the maintenance yourself. I
guess your beast chance to get a detailed answer is to contact an
European glider association, they really work on this. Probably your
best starting point would be to contact the British Gliding Association,
for language reasons.

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